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 02-19-2006, 20:18 Post: 124801
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This was from "YAHOO" news report today, just a small part of the story, {Nothing of consequence will happen in the Security Council because the Russians and Chinese will block sanctions," the diplomat said of the two non-Western big powers determined to protect massive energy investments and trade with Iran.]

YOU EVER GET THE FEELING THAT WE ARE HEADED FOR ANOUTHER huge WORLD WAR? We all know the Russians and Chineese have no love for us here in the STATES. Maybe its time we "the USA" show China what will happen to their economy if they want to play hardball. I would love a Govt. that would say, "enough is enough" if China does not see what we do and they want to side with this country (obviously they are hoping we do something militaily against the UN's better judgment) and allow them to enrich uranium, maybe its time we cut off the imports. The Walmarts and the "WELL" all the rest of the stores in this country would need to revamp where they get product from. China IMO forgets who is feeding them (in a round about way). Maybe I am getting old and looking into the situation way way too much, but it sure seems like these country's are up to something? Something no good? Almost like they (under their breaths) really can't stand us and want to see the world opinion of the USA go further down hill. We all know that Russia still is burned about their fall as a super power and their fall as a country in whole.
Iran seems like a country that is sucking up to the biggest kids on their block so they can threaten the worlds peace. Almost think its time we let Iran do what they want and make their own bed. China and Russia will have to live with this next door. Nothing would make me more happier than to see the USA cut off ALL imports from China. Let them all support their own selves for awhile and see what their attitude is like then when they go back to eating rats and cats. On the brighter side, they would still have Walmarts their? I bet ya their prices would be a bit higher though if we stopped allowing China products into this country for awhile.
OK Im done with my RANT.






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 02-27-2006, 21:12 Post: 125274
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The problem of higher labor cost does not start and end with the laborers. It starts and ends with the management of the laborers
In this country there is far too high of cost involved with engineering a product and then following thru. Just like smoking and drinking, its easy to blame those guys because its an easy target. Look further into how a product is made and sold. Company's dont think twice about hiring and employing far too many semi profesional engineers to follow thru with a job that one or two could do if they either A: knew anything at all about manufacturing process, or B: knew what a hard days work really was. Many management employees are far too worried about hiding their half assed engineered products that can not be machined the way they invisioned it or hiding (from upper management) the mis-ordered products so they can either look good or get that 4% raise. Ive been in 3 different product manufacturing company's. ALL of them work in the same fashion. Quality can be blamed on the workers if it is discovered, just KEEP THAT LINE RUNNING!
We can fix it later! (If its caught) If you think that is not the way our company's are run, you better spend some more time on the floor. I mean more than enough time to get a coffee and take a walk about! Dont even think about blaming the worker for the high cost of products manufactured here. Its a total package. Show me 10 (ten) 34 year old engineers and I will show you 8 that have not ever known what it is like to actually work for a living. And then they also get their 4% raise every year (or more) What a joke, for what? In most cases it takes two-three engineers (american) to do the job of one Japanese. Maybe because when they are at work they are not spending the day talking golf,searching on the internet, (avoiding firewalls and reading tractor point) Must I go on? Becareful where you throw rocks when your working in a glass office. If you dont think what I am saying is factual your living in a dream world made up of your college buddy's and naked blonds with bunny suits on.
The we can go to sales department, support of sales departments, Office watering crews (the ones that water your plants) company lunches, expense accounts, bogus trips that last a day longer than they should, buisness trip expense accounts that show you ate $125 in meals when actually your group ate the bar (the free horderves) and charged the tab of drinks (claiming it was a bar resturant) You know, one guy charges the drinks, the next guy charges the drinks the next night and we all claim them as a meals expense. (Ive been on a few of those excursions) You get taught by the older more experianced company screwers)that have done this for years, as I was salary in R&D engineering department for 6 years before I went back into the real world of work. Ive been on both sides of the fence. Your blanket comments about me are as stupid as they come. Blame the worker because we all know your working twice as hard right? Give me a friggin break.
AV8 knows what I am talking about. Give him 2 years and we can go back and ask him which job he worked at that was more work and made the company more profit (and which departments screw ups cost the company more). Since AV8R know how to run machine's and what it takes to actually machine a part, he will be one of the GOOD engineers out there. And NO taking a few machining classes dont count as knowing how to set up run and machine a part.

Us Americans need to stop pointing fingers. Its time we all start to do a better job at what we do. We can start by designating ENGLISH as the national lanquage. Anyone who cant understand it should be forced to learn it or leave. That will be our down fall. Lucky for me I will not be alive by the time this undermines our economy.
BTW Look at what the CEO's of the companys are raking in and then look )compare that to what the CEO's are taking in in our forign country competitors company's. Look at what the engineering staffs are making in china/Japan and look at what we are making. It all is related to the final out come of why our products are more expensive (and we wont even get into the cheap ass material they are using over there to make our products with.






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